Curse

gshock · Mar 02, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

ok, this probably been discussed before, but since some players still keep doing this i make this thread..

last night, i joined a PUG for TOPK.
The standard barrage-pet, order, MM and monk group.

But on lvl 2, someone just went : "FU**** GROUP", and just left..
WHats up with that ? Do they think that a PUG will work as a "well oiled machinery" ??

i'm ok with people leaving, as long as they atleast say why.
e.g : "sorry, i have to go, it's dinner". or "sry, have to go - have to shovel some snow. " after all it's just a game we play for fun...

But the people leaving, do they think they're so much more über than the rest of us? and if they do, why don't they tell us what the "problem" is, instead of just leaving - and ruining for the rest of the group.

if i get in a group that i can tell that ppl are "first timers", atleast i try to help them, not ruin their play... maybe they even quit playing gw if people keep ruin their play, why continue when all u meet is flaming and crap like N00b, omg u noob etc...

and after all- when you join a group, you join a TEAM - and why not COMMUNICATE a little?

But i must also say that there's a lot of nice players out there too,
i've joined good groups with polite players, and we have FUN.
That's a keyword folks : FUN !!

ok, now i have blown of some "steam", but i reckon people agree.
but what can we do to "fix" this problem ?? a stored "quitter without reason" number on character or seomthing like that...
any ideas ?

thrice · Mar 02, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

You can't really do anything about it. People can just be immature jerks sometimes.

m0gden · Mar 02, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

I really dislike it when people do that as well. I hate to quit on a group regardless of what I need to do because some of these missions are at least 45 minutes in time. I also dislike when people leave because they picked up what they needed. They capped the skill/infused whatever. I stay for the entire thing no matter what. Not only do I stay for it all I will go out of my way for one person to cap a skill because I would want my team to do the same for me.

All I needed was Oath Shot from Iron Mines tonight after having been infused and capped barrage earlier. Rather than pay for any runners I persuaded our team to fight our way there, which is pretty fast, and took care that every got what they needed. My reward? They went out of their way for me to cap Oath Shot. Nice when people work together.

By the way, if Steve Blender was in your RoF party tonight and left I apologize. GW did a triple crash on it heh.

torquemada · Mar 02, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

My connection breaks sometimes, so you can call me a quitter...

A pity there's no way to differentiate quitters (OMG dinner!!) and people with network problems....

Fantus · Mar 02, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

Yeah, those leavers just suck. And ToPK is the worst area in this regard in all of GW. There always were people dropping from groups, but in ToPK they drop out for the slightest reason, such as ONE player dieing in battle. They expect the "perfect run" from start to end in less than 45 minutes. If your group doesn't do that, they drop. Sometimes they quit without reason, too. One person dropping will usually lead to another quitting, and another.. and another. In the end, you and one other player are still standing there and wonder wtf just happened. A good B/P group can finish the run even when one or two players dropped. But those people destroy a group for no reason even after completing more then half of the run.

My worst ToPK run was when I had to restart the run for 7(!) times because people were dropping out of group in the first area...

Fantus · Mar 02, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55

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Originally Posted by torquemada

My connection breaks sometimes, so you can call me a quitter...

A pity there's no way to differentiate quitters (OMG dinner!!) and people with network problems....

I don't think anybody will blame you for that (usually you can tell whether a person disconneced or just quit, just look if they are online after they dropped out). I just can't and don't believe that the number of Err7 is around 25 times higher in ToPK then in any other area of the game...

lyra_song · Mar 02, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Everytime me and my guildmate do runs, either he drops or I drop.
Therefore we never go together anymore. Sometimes you can tell who dropped (they stand there adn get wailed on by someone and not respond to "move your ass out of the meteor shower!") and sometimes you can just tell when someone says they lagging. Its like...you can feel the DC coming XD

torquemada · Mar 02, 2006, 08:21 AM // 08:21

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Originally Posted by Fantus

I don't think anybody will blame you for that (usually you can tell whether a person disconneced or just quit, just look if they are online after they dropped out). I just can't and don't believe that the number of Err7 is around 25 times higher in ToPK then in any other area of the game...

Well, actually, they already did! There were just 3 of us in magumma doing that defense mission (protect some mantle), and doing fine. It was almost over, I experienced extreme lag (no activity on ADSL modem) and it was over. I tried to wisper em later, but they refused to listen calling me a loser, quitter, n00bcake, etc.

I just wish ANet would introduce a message like "player X client terminated unexpectedly" and not "...left the game". It could be done easily since the client breakdown isn't invoked by interface (no client interface event).

Luckily, didn't happen on THK mission

Oh yeah, and I do hate real quitters with a passion (especially "dinner" quitters). I can understand that someone gets a urgent call or whatever (I usually kill phone before mission, though

) but dinner? Cmon....

EF2NYD · Mar 02, 2006, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Not as bad as the "my parents just got home" or "I have school tomorrow" excuse.

Gonzo · Mar 02, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Yeah, if you got school/work the next day you could (and should) have thought of that before you started the mission.

torquemada · Mar 02, 2006, 10:42 AM // 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF2NYD

Not as bad as the "my parents just got home" or "I have school tomorrow" excuse.

ROFL....almost forgot that one...what should the working people say then?
I can even understand someone's got exam or something....but "my parents just got home" - never got that from anybody yet....thank god for small mercy!

gshock · Mar 02, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada

I just wish ANet would introduce a message like "player X client terminated unexpectedly" and not "...left the game". It could be done easily since the client breakdown isn't invoked by interface (no client interface event).

THAT would be a great idea..
i know it's frustrating when the internet connection brakes down and u try to tell the others that u didn't quit...

Fantus · Mar 02, 2006, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by torquemada

I just wish ANet would introduce a message like "player X client terminated unexpectedly" and not "...left the game". It could be done easily since the client breakdown isn't invoked by interface (no client interface event).

/Seconded

I don't know if this was already suggested somewhere, but if not, you really should post it into Sardelac Sanitarium.

art_ · Mar 02, 2006, 11:31 AM // 11:31

Yeah i do find it annoying when you are making a grp in HA which isn't something which will work perfectly from the word go, and people dont have patience to stick with it. I don't mean wacky untested builds, i mean builds which have been proven to be successful. A lot of people just expect everything to go perfectly immediately and if it doesn't its because the group is noob.

Dave83 · Mar 02, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Im actually not okay with people quitting

E.g. 'I have to go for dinner' dont start an hour's farm run when you know you have to go in half an hour then ignorant person.

Rarely do I join an oro farm group where everyone stays till the end, normally one person drops 10 - 15 minutes in.

New UW/topk its the same, even B/P groups which are so quick compared to other setups, people always leave, I hate when your party is dead bar one person then all of a sudden you see greyed out player bards start to appear. Its generally okay If one person has rez and has ran a safe distance, stay you morons.

Its pointless complaining really, you cant stop people from quitting. I just think generally crappy excuses like 'I have to go to bed' or 'I have to go eat' arent acceptable. It's ignorant and potentially leaves your team in the crap when you go.

Another similar problem that bugs the hell out of me when i host teams is - I'll always say 'Anyone not ready? Please say now if you are'nt. Then I'll wait ten to twenty secs. Quite often some fool then says 'i was'nt ready' then starts complaining....read your chat fool.

People are ignorant, and posting does little to raise awareness, but it's nice to get our rants off our chest sometimes

CorstedPirate · Mar 02, 2006, 11:48 AM // 11:48

Man, every now and then my dsl connection goes haywire and I get kicked. It takes 5 minutes sometimes more to log back in and try to appologize. That happened the other day on my 2nd try for the Iron Mines bonus. I was pretty ticked. I had to deal with this person demanding to see my armor to know it was infused. Good idea I guess, but super annoying none the less.

You can normally tell those people that drop from the quiters at least. Had some one drop when I was helping with THK today. We were doing really well, then they were suddenly gone. Earlier I was helping another group with THK and had to leave. My father normally drops my son off to me after school because he works at the school. He called just as we started the mission to say he couldn't. So, I let everyone know that I wouldn't be able to finish and asked if they wanted to just start over then. I wanted to let them know as soon as possible so there wouldn't be much time investment. They didn't, so I played till I had to go, let them know, then left. It really sucked, and I hate the rare occassions that I have had to leave a group like that.

Moltov joss · Mar 02, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56

[QUOTE=torquemada]
Luckily, didn't happen on THK mission

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You're lucky. I was in a guild party on THK and recieved the dreaded err=7!
Thank god they were all cool about it.

Big_Iron · Mar 02, 2006, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Almost everytime I do Tombs at least one person drops. Occasionally, they'll PM me and tell me they were disconnected. Most of the time though, they just drop. I've compelted Tombs with 5 or 6 people more than I have with 8 it seems. More greens for me.

What I hate is when you get some prima donna that screams at everyone, calling them n00bs, then says something like, "I hate this group" and then leaves. That happened to me the other night in FoW. Some poor tank was a noob and aggroed a couple groups. Both monks (mostly one, the other was a follower and only repeated what the other said) kept flaming the guy, but lumped the rest of us in with him. "OMFG, I hate this group. What a bunch of n00bs!" Of course some ele, not wanting to be labeled a noob also, joined in. It was only one guy. He admitted he had made mistakes and would try to do better. Then we hit another patrol, all went well, but the same jerk of a monk screamed, "OMFG, I hate this group" and left followed by his little partner. Stuff like that, I can't stand. Yeah, one guy made mistakes, but there's no reason to be a jerk.

lg5000 · Mar 02, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Problem with disconections is.. you get back to gw afterwards, and.. guess who didn't put the name of ANY of their previous team on their friends list? How can you contact them to let them know it wasn't your fault?

Big_Iron · Mar 02, 2006, 12:41 PM // 12:41

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Originally Posted by lg5000

Problem with disconections is.. you get back to gw afterwards, and.. guess who didn't put the name of ANY of their previous team on their friends list? How can you contact them to let them know it wasn't your fault?

Exactly. Most of the time people just assume you dropped off and curse your and your family.